September 21st, 2008
Comcast Looks to P2P-Agnostic Throttling
By Michael Santo
Editor-in-Chief, RealTechNews
You’ll recall that despite its recently-filed lawsuit against the FCC over P2P-throttling practices, Comcast agreed it would still detail its network management policies to the organization, as originally ordered. On Friday Comcast provided that documentation to the FCC.
In fact, as part (.PDF) of the documentation sent to the FCC, Comcast now admits it had targeted P2P protocols: Ares, BitTorrent, eDonkey, FastTrack, and Gnutella were chosen after analysys. The company used a Sandvine Policy Traffic Switch 8210 for the throttling:
“The Sandvine equipment has been used (1) to determine when the number of simultaneous unidirectional upload sessions for a particular P2P protocol in a particular geographic area reaches its pre-determined threshold, and (2) when a threshold is reached, to temporarily delay the initiation of any new unidirectional upload sessions for that protocol until the number of simultaneous unidirectional upload sessions drops below that threshold.”
In Comcast’s update to the FCC, it details its new plan. which aligns with earlier Comcast tests we wrote about: Comcast will continue to throttle, but only in times of network congestion, and only high-usage users. By doing so, it avoids (or at least attempts to avoid) the “network neutrality” issues it ran afoul of with regards to the aforementioned P2P throttling (confirmed by AP and others, despite Comcast denials).
Comcast will accomplish this by creating a second lower-priority stream of traffic for recent heavy users. When congestion occurs, Internet speeds will be slowed on that stream.
While this is certainly better than targeting P2P users alone, it follows closely other developments in the area of broadband, and not just by Comcast — and not in the area of more FIOS rollouts:
- AT&T added throttling to its HSI Terms-of-Service
- Comcast sued the FCC Over “Net Neutrality”
- Comcast announcesd a 250 GB Broadband Cap
While it must be noted that 250 GB is fairly generous, take a look at Frontier DSL’s 5 GB cap and wonder what others might do. It also flies in the fact that more and more offerings are being made for broadband users, increasing usage.
If ISPs such as Comcast and AT&T can’t keep up now, what of the future?
Finally, in terms of the previously mentioned tests of their new system, according to Comcast, the earlier tests in five cities (Warrenton, VA, Chambersburg, PA, Colorado Springs, CO, Lake View, FL and East Orange, FL) resulted in no customer complaints — and less than 1% of customers were affected on a typical day.
If in fact these numbers are correct, that’s not actually a bad result. One has to wonder, however, if the reason people didn’t complain is:
- They were using P2P and didn’t want to call attention to that fact
- They weren’t home when it happened and didn’t notice
Or perhaps Comcast is telling the truth and customers really didn’t notice. Nah, it’s a corporation. I’d also be interested in what a more highly populated area, say, Los Angeles might feel in terms of pain.
The company says it plans to roll the new plan out to its entire network by the end of the year.













Kevin K. says:
ISPs have been overcharging for access forever, in my opinion. That means, to me, they have made a heck of a lot of profit on “normal” users for the last 10 years and have easily made enough money to “keep up” with demand. If they have not, then that’s THEIR issue, not their customers.
This is like buying a ticket on an airline for $200 and the guy right next to you paid $800. Someone just made a $600 profit yet they will still charge you extra $$ for a checked bag!
Now ISPs are in the game by crying that users are “using too much and we can’t have them using too much!”
Just charge customers reasonable prices and it will all even out!
Grrrrrr!
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
Loren says:
no customer complaints — and less than 1% of customers were affected on a typical day.
You don’t suppose that Comcast would have kept stats on the type of traffic in all areas, then picked the lowest usage areas for P2P apps for their “trials” after implementation, now, do you?
September 25th, 2008 at 7:39 am