Comments on: When They Say Upgrade, They Mean It: No Clean Installs with Windows Vista Upgrade Discs http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063 Independent Tech News and Product Reviews from former VP and head of CNET.com and Longtime Computer Shopper Columnist, Alice Hill author of the popular "Hard Edge" column. Originally named AliceandBill.com. Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:01:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Pilot http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-213701 Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:47:45 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-213701 You can perform a Clean Install of All Versions using just an upgrade disc to see how just click the link and find a post yes you can http://forums.cnet.com/5208-12546_102-0.html?forumID=133&threadID=226764&messageID=2365399 You can perform a Clean Install of All Versions using just an upgrade disc to see how just click the link and find a post yes you can
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-12546_102-0.html?forumID=133&threadID=226764&messageID=2365399

]]> by: richard http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-108935 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:50:28 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-108935 Two issues are getting intertwined. a. upgrade versions: yes, you need to install on a computer where XP resides b. clean install: yes, you can do a clean install -- i just did with vista business upgrade. my strategy: xp resided on a fat32 volume. patitioned a new volume on a separate hard drive (in this case third hard drive, H:). and used partition magic to format it was ntfs. C. then i ran vista setup from within xp. D. because xp was on a fat32 volume, the install blocked the choice to install there and instead presented only one choice: a full install on H:, the ntfs volume. E. installed like a charm and validated just fine. buzzing along. Two issues are getting intertwined.

a. upgrade versions: yes, you need to install on a computer where XP resides

b. clean install: yes, you can do a clean install — i just did with vista business upgrade.

my strategy:
xp resided on a fat32 volume.
patitioned a new volume on a separate hard drive (in this case third hard drive, H:). and used partition magic to format it was ntfs.

C. then i ran vista setup from within xp.

D. because xp was on a fat32 volume, the install blocked the choice to install there and instead presented only one choice: a full install on H:, the ntfs volume.

E. installed like a charm and validated just fine.

buzzing along.

]]> by: Techo blog » Blog Archive » Introducing Vista ‘Time Waster’ Edition http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-108804 Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:28:06 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-108804 [...] “Many may say, what’s wrong with that? But when switching OSes like this, you should really have a clean install. Otherwise you’re going to have a system full of unused files and garbage. I realize that most users will just go with the direct upgrade, without starting from scratch, but I wouldn’t be one of them.”–Real Tech News [...] […] “Many may say, what’s wrong with that? But when switching OSes like this, you should really have a clean install. Otherwise you’re going to have a system full of unused files and garbage. I realize that most users will just go with the direct upgrade, without starting from scratch, but I wouldn’t be one of them.”–Real Tech News […]

]]> by: » Workaround for “Clean Install” for Vista Upgrades Discovered » Blog Archive   Alice Hill’s Real Tech News - Independent Tech http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-108460 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:43:55 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-108460 [...] Earlier I wrote about clean installs not being available any longer with Windows Vista Upgrade DVDs. There was conjecture that it might be related to Home versions, but even the mainstream press was confused. Now, it seems Paul Thurott, through some internal Microsoft documents, has discovered a workaround. However, he did not test it, but the enterprising folks at DailyTech did, and they confirm it works. [...] […] Earlier I wrote about clean installs not being available any longer with Windows Vista Upgrade DVDs. There was conjecture that it might be related to Home versions, but even the mainstream press was confused. Now, it seems Paul Thurott, through some internal Microsoft documents, has discovered a workaround. However, he did not test it, but the enterprising folks at DailyTech did, and they confirm it works. […]

]]> by: Scott Troxel http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-107236 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:15:09 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-107236 Workaround found: During 1st install, don't enter key code. Vista installs as trial version. Install again, using key code. Delete old files. Convoluted, but supposedly it works. Full article at http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932 Workaround found: During 1st install, don’t enter key code. Vista installs as trial version. Install again, using key code. Delete old files. Convoluted, but supposedly it works. Full article at http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932

]]> by: Kevin Peck http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106438 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:34:43 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106438 Great, so lets say you get some Vista only hardware. A new HD that XP will not recognize not even with the F6 press on install to load a driver manually. Guess what? You can no longer user your legal copy of Vista either. Plus who wants the old XP stuff laying around? Good thing I did the work to slipstream SP2 onto my XP CD so I could get back to Vista sooner if I ever install it. Looks like that is going to be an even longer time out now. Great, so lets say you get some Vista only hardware. A new HD that XP will not recognize not even with the F6 press on install to load a driver manually. Guess what? You can no longer user your legal copy of Vista either.

Plus who wants the old XP stuff laying around? Good thing I did the work to slipstream SP2 onto my XP CD so I could get back to Vista sooner if I ever install it. Looks like that is going to be an even longer time out now.

]]> by: Sergio http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106388 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:10:59 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106388 I can get even worse if this policy is kept for the future versions... can you imagine install Xp -> install Win Vista -> install Win Horizon -> install Win Estratosphere --> etc I can get even worse if this policy is kept for the future versions… can you imagine install Xp -> install Win Vista -> install Win Horizon -> install Win Estratosphere –> etc

]]> by: Jonathan Miller http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106382 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:23:20 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106382 The funny thing is that with Vista there technically no such thing as an 'Upgrade'. When you run Upgrade, it does a clean install of Vista and then runs it own migration tools to copy your data and settings. So even an upgrade isn't really an upgrade. The funny thing is that with Vista there technically no such thing as an ‘Upgrade’. When you run Upgrade, it does a clean install of Vista and then runs it own migration tools to copy your data and settings. So even an upgrade isn’t really an upgrade.

]]> by: Roger Price http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106371 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:13:26 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106371 Just give me 1 good reason why you would want to upgrade to Vista. Do you enjoy pain and suffering? Just buy that new computer or hardware next year with Vista SP2 and save yourself some headaches. Just give me 1 good reason why you would want to upgrade to Vista. Do you enjoy pain and suffering? Just buy that new computer or hardware next year with Vista SP2 and save yourself some headaches.

]]> by: David Johnston http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106347 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:35:43 +0000 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4063#comment-106347 PC Perspective is also saying that the XP install can't just be any XP install. It has to be a SP2 XP install. PC Perspective is also saying that the XP install can’t just be any XP install. It has to be a SP2 XP install.

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