May 4th, 2006
UPDATE: Spammer Desperately Tries to Undermine Blue Security
By David Johnston
Contributing Writer, RealTechNews
In what appears to be a last-ditch attempt at scaring subscribers to Blue Security’s “Do Not Intrude” registry, one very prominent spammer has started to resort to scare-tactics targeted toward members of the Blue Security community. I received one of these emails today, and while it sounds forboding it is, as one Blue Security community member said, “like a sheep in wolf’s clothing”. Here are the relevant contents of the email:
Update #1: The Blue Security website has been hit by a DoS attack and is currently down, though their software is still working. If you’re interested in more reading on the subject, you can look through this excellent article on Blue Security.
Update #2: I have yet to receive a single additional spam email to any of my email addresses. The promised increase in spam has yet to show up for me, though others are reporting more heavy spamming, especially of notices similar to this one. The Blue Security website continues to be under attack from spammers, but I was able to get through for a few minutes to see that they have posted up a new message to spammers saying that they will not back down and will continue to fight against them.
Update #3: While reading the comments keep in mind that Fred, Mark, Laurie, Ronald, Killthem, SpamKing, Rick, Frank, and Paul are all the same person. This same spammer used the same person’s computer to post all of his comments under these various aliases. You should also notice the similar spelling and grammar mistakes in all of his posts.
Update #4: One of my email accounts has started receiving bounced spam messages indicating that the spammers have started using it as the “from” address on their spams. My other 3 protected accounts have seen no activity, I’m assuming because they weren’t on this spammer’s list to begin with.
Update #5: It appears as though Blue Security is slowly but surely bringing their site back online. I can now access the members’ area and log in. My Blue Frog software is also connecting again. If you want to sign up, but haven’t been able to, you should be able to do that now–barring any new, unforseen attacks on the website.
Hey,
You are recieving this email because you are a member of BlueSecurity (http://www.bluesecurity.com).
You signed up because you were expecting to recieve a lesser amount of spam, unfortunately, due to the tactics used by BlueSecurity, you will end up recieving this message, or other nonsensical spams 20-40 times more than you would normally.
How do you make it stop?
Simple, in 48 hours, and every 48 hours thereafter, we will run our current list of BlueSecurity subscribers through BlueSecurity’s database, if you arent there.. you wont get this again.
We have devised a method to retrieve your address from their database, so by signing up and remaining a BlueSecurity user not only are you opening yourself up for this, you are also potentially verifying your email address through them to even more spammers, and will end up getting up even more spam as an end-result.
By signing up for bluesecurity, you are doing the exact opposite of what you want, so delete your account, and you will stop recieving this.
Why are we doing this?
Its simple, we dont want to, but BlueSecurity is forcing us. We would much rather not waste our resources and send you these useless mails.
Its simple, we dont want to, but BlueSecurity is forcing us. We would much rather not waste our resources and send you these useless mails, but do not believe for one second that we will stop this tirade of emails if you choose to stay with BlueSecurity.
Just remember one thing when you read this, we didnt do this to you, BlueSecurity did.If BlueSecurity decides to play fair, we will do the same.
Just remove yourself from BlueSecurity, and make it easier on you.
Gena Elmore
This sounds scary, but it’s not as bad as it sounds. Blue Security’s email address registry remains secure contrary to what this spammer would have you believe. The way subscribers’ emails were obtained was by checking the spammer’s own list of emails against the Do Not Intrude registry. Normally spammers will get the emails of those who subscribe returned to them and will then remove those emails from their spamming lists. This one, however, has taken another approach. Instead of taking those hits off of his spam lists, he is sending them these intimidating emails.
What’s so funny about this approach is that if you do remove yourself from the Blue Security registry, you’ll still receive normal spam from this spammer. He has no intention of taking your email address off of his spam list, he just wants you to stop fighting back against the spam you already receive from him (Blue Security only goes after spammers who send spam emails with no opt-outs to its members). Emails like this are proof that Blue Security is getting noticed by these spammers by making it unprofitable for them to continue sending their unsolicited mail to unwilling recipients. Recently Blue Security has made great strides toward its goal of eliminating spam for its users. On the account where I received this email, I used to receive over a dozen spams every day. Recently, within the past two weeks, I have seen spam to this address slow and almost halt. Today I’m averaging just one or two spam emails daily.
I personally hope that this email has the opposite effect from what this spammer wishes. Hopefully, more people will sign up for the Do Not Intrude registry, and make Blue Security even stronger. Learn more about how Blue Security is fighting spam here. You can also read a lot of the current stories of success against the spammers in their blog, here.
Aaron says:
I’ve been using Blue Security for a few months now and I’ve only seen my spam go up. Today there was a huge jump, from around 30 messages daily, to close to 200. About 30 of them were the message you quoted. I just uninstalled Blue Frog.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:22 pm
David Johnston says:
I’ve never heard of numbers that extreme. The most I’ve seen people report on BlueSecurity is about a dozen, and that’s over multiple addresses. I’ve only received one. In any case, just sending these messages and being forced to check the Do Not Intrude registry is a waste of the spammer’s resources and money.
May 1st, 2006 at 7:26 pm
Jason Hull says:
hmmm… I received the same email. I can’t even get to bluesecurity.com right now. Sounds like a war has begun, I hope bluesecurity wins.
May 1st, 2006 at 7:39 pm
Josh says:
I noticed the failure of the blue security site as well… I think that spammers have now crossed the line(doubly so) with these threats… I uninstalled blue frog initially, but as soon as the blue security site is back up I am reinstalling… Down With spam!
May 1st, 2006 at 7:44 pm
David Johnston says:
I have been able to access the site all day, but it has been very slow. I’m betting they’re getting hit with a DDoS attack.
May 1st, 2006 at 7:52 pm
DangerNerd says:
Hello there,
I have received quite a few of these. So far there are about 4 versions of this spam floating around.
If people give in to this extortion… it will be a nightmare.
The people running blue-frog are OBVIOUSLY impacting the spammers money. When was the last time you saw a tactic like this? Never, that is when.
To those that would be discouraged, I would say this: Nobody could have possibly created a stronger endorsement for the Blue Frog if they tried.
Be brave, stick it out, back a system that works and you will be the winner.
There are more of us than them. Soon there will be millions of Blue Frogs installed, thanks largely in part to this fantastic advertising campaign the spammers are running. When a million opt-out requests hit a spammer… well, you can see why they are freaking out.
DN.
May 1st, 2006 at 7:56 pm
MisterX says:
I deleted my account after finding out what bluesecurity really do… I analyzed traffic on my router and found out that my computer was doing DDOS attack to couple servers. I think that spammer are bad but I prefer stay on the legal side.
MisterX
May 1st, 2006 at 8:16 pm
yup says:
Well yeah MisterX, that’s the point. Blue security launches DDOS attacks from it’s users computers to the spammers that dont respect the opt out list. That’s no secret. And it’s not illegal. I think half these comments are slipped in here by spammers to try and distort the truth by making slue security look bad. They are getting desperate. Join the fight and download the software if you havent already.
May 1st, 2006 at 8:28 pm
freecode says:
I think that the spammer is doing what the article says (using the registry), but what this piece fails to mention is that BlueFrog therefore has weaknesses. I had already uninstalled it prior to this recent spat. It was drawing syn floods about a week ago, slowing my PCs and I never saw any tangible benefits from using it (our SPAM flows did not drop).
Now SPAM is waaaaay up (due to this attack) and I don’t find their solution very useful - actually more like painting a target on yourself because they made this available to Spammers to target users. Any database of user information like this only gives these illegitate asshats a target list. I think it was a good idea, but the treatment is no cure, it’s just lipstick on a pig. It doesn’t improve the situation and the resulting side effect is nothing more than more SPAM.
I tried to bring this to their attention when I removed the software because of the SYN Floods, but no one ever responded from Blue Security. I still have that email and it irks me that no one seemed to listen. I expect more from a company to protect my privacy - instead, it lured those wanting to stop SPAM into being SPAM-magnets.
Saying this attack is a victory is a bit like Baghdad Bob saying “There are no US troops at the airport”. If this is victory, I sure don’t see it. Instead, if this registry is that easily compromised - then the model needs to be re-thought. Go back to the drawing board - the professional spammers are hitting every proxy they can to blast crap at those of us who even tried this idea. Somebody wake up Blue Security - they seem to have fallen asleep at the switch.
Have a nice day all, but I am going to seek other antipsam methods - this one fails the basic security test of keeping user information private, and that’s just plainly a poorly thought-out process. If this is that easily available and accessible by spammers -it’s not a cure, it’s just a contagion-accelerator.
Have a nice evening.
freecode
May 1st, 2006 at 8:34 pm
MisterX says:
Yup: DDOS attacks are illegal no matter who you attack and I’m not into it. When you download the software it’s not clearly mentionned about thoses attack. I remember this little canadian guy with nickname ‘mafiaboy’ who closed down couple of big site, he got sued at criminal and he lost. A company based in USA would not be able to keep such software up long time. I run a ISP in Toronto, Canada and spam is a big problem. Actually im going back to norton spam filter and it’s much more convenient (and legal) than bluesecurity. Anyway I gave my 2 cents this site is not a chatboard but a place to leave comments.
May 1st, 2006 at 8:36 pm
Marcelo Meiado says:
I received 9 of these emails, in 3 different accounts. First, I tought that could be a good idea, but it’s a freaking nightmare. Yeah, I wanna fight spam, but it does sound like users are the soldiers in this stupid war, and our e-mails are at stake.
This is bad. Now my email account is gonna be filled with garbage AND i’ll be attacked.
Yes, we are millions, but they have the resources to wipe our asses out of the computer. BlueSecurity site is not even online anymore, that’s the kind of power spammers have.
And, btw, they are ddosing spammers with OUR resources, and no, it’s not legal. DDoS is DDoS, it’s a crime in most civilized countries and believe me, one can get in some serious trouble with this.
My fellow friends, I’m quitting bluefrog. I dont wanna take sides in this stupid war.
May 1st, 2006 at 8:45 pm
David Johnston says:
The method being used to “attack” members REQUIRES that you ALREADY be on the spammer’s list. So, you really aren’t losing anything though this. The spammer already has your address. By uninstalling the Blue Security software all you’re doing is ceasing to fight back.
As for the legality of Blue Security’s methods, they go through all of the normal methods first. They do everything possible to contact spammers and ask them to comply with its users’ opt-out requests (which are a legal requirement for spam emails). A spammer only has problems if he does not comply with this. When a spammer is targeted, his site is not brought down. Blue Security uses the Blue Frog software to submit opt-out requests in one form or another. I also highly doubt that any spammer would be brazen enough to take Blue Security to court since that would end up revealing all of the laws that he himself had broken and he’d end up with huge fines and probable jail time.
BTW, I agree with you, “yup”. I’m very suspicious of many of these comments. I have noticed a large decrease in the amount of spam I receive, and I have only received this one threatening email. Spammers have been known to try all kinds of tactics to stop people from installing Blue Security’s software, giving it bad reviews at Download.com and on the Mozilla Extensions site (they frequently have to remove these spammers’ comments).
May 1st, 2006 at 9:00 pm
David Johnston says:
You can also read more about Blue Security’s tactics here: http://www.benchmark.com/news/sv/2005/12_05_2005.php
They are very responsible and also report spam messages to the appropriate government agencies (like the FDA, FTC, and SEC).
May 1st, 2006 at 9:25 pm
Wayne says:
I got the same email, but I know he is bluffing because I have multiple emails registered with Blue Frog and his “scare” mails only came to a couple of them.
The thing is that I know that this guy won’t keep up his threats. How? Spammers by their very nature are lazy. Criminals are always looking for easy money without the need to work for it. Having to put together “hit” lists of Blue Froggers brings absolutely no profit to them. They are exerting effort for no return and they won’t do it for long. It’s like Homer Simpson’s exercise program..1 pushup..2 pushup..I’m tired..exercise sucks.
After the Frog and other programs like it shut them down, I guess they’ll go back to selling candy that they steal from babies or grabbing purses from old ladies.
We’re going to win this war and the Blue Frog is the way to do it. Fight fire with fire.
May 1st, 2006 at 9:25 pm
Wayne says:
It’s funny, I’m reading the comments and it’s fairly obvious that the spammers are spamming the comments here as well.
“Oh, my gosh, Blue Frog has a security hole, I’m uninstalling it right now!” “DDos attacks are illegal and unethical” “The spammers have the resources to blow us into oblivion.oooohh”, omg..could they be more freakin’ obvious?
Folks, it is imperative that we keep up this fight. By uninstalling the Frog, do you think the spammers will remove your address from their list? On a cold day in hell they will; that’s what this fight is all about and it’s a fight worth having. A bunch of low-lifes who would be shoplifting at the 7-11 if they weren’t spamming your @ss all day are trying to bully millions of us who are saying to them “enough is a freakin’ nough”. And our answer has to be, “there are a million more of us than there are of you.” The thought of a million Frog hits on their V14gra website has them p1ss1ng their pants, that’s why they are acting so desparately to try to con people into shutting down their Frogs. Don’t give in; the numbers are totally against them; they cannot win if we don’t quit.
May 1st, 2006 at 9:42 pm
MyrddinEmrys says:
Everytime someone reacts to these attacks by uninstalling Blue Frog, the SPAMmers win a little bit more. Everytime someone reacts by simply forwarding the message to bluesecurity, the world comes that much closer to being SPAM free (or at least, SPAM lite)…
FYI, I’ve seen easily a tenfold increase in SPAM in the last 24 hours, including no less than 29 “warnings” about my participation in Blue Frog. But you know what? I’ve dealt with bigger pieces of s–t than these scum, and I’ll happily deal with a little extra SPAM today in exchange for less SPAM tomorrow.
May 1st, 2006 at 10:44 pm
Stan Miller says:
It is pretty easy to tell the trolls from the spammers from the posts by users isn’t it?
I keep an eye on my computer and it sends at the most one complaint message for each spam I get, that can’t be considered a DOS attack can it? They send me a message and I reply to it asking to be removed from their list… I have to do it using the bluefrog client though as their return address on the e-mail is forged.
They have sent me sevral hundred spam messages today, I just send them on to spamcop and get their servers blocked. Great fun!
May 1st, 2006 at 10:52 pm
RapidFire says:
Isn’t wonderful to see the spammers so mad? I’m delighted.
They’re pissed by the frog, crying and lying in blogs like this one, trying to scare the BlueFrog users. Losers.
I’ve received 30-40 of their hollow threats, but none in the Blue Frog protected accounts! They’re blindly shooting into the dark, using the lists that they already have.
Hey, spammers! Better you start to take your fake viagra by truckloads, because you are impotent to stop the frogs!
The sooner you realize that you must to stop spamming the blue community the better for you. Then you could spam to death to the morons that buy your junk, but without annoying us in the process.
GO, FROG, GO!!!
May 1st, 2006 at 10:53 pm
Richard says:
Blue Security goes to great effort to space out the opt-out requests to avoid the DDoS condition. I see a lot of FUD in the comments. Freecode is especially ill-informed.
All I can say is my spam in my primary account went from 8+ Spams Per Hour to 1/4 SPH.
I haven’t got any of these messages. If you can extract addresses from the Blue Security list, I am on all the versions. Send some of this spam to me so I can help locate your proxies. You have lots of them to spare, right?
May 1st, 2006 at 10:56 pm
Tiberius says:
Yeah uninstall the Frog, go hide in a corner, and pull the rug over your head. Plaster your face with ashes, wear sackcloth! So the spammers are upset, and want to grip. Go for it I say, and take what comes back the other way.
There is no way i am going back to the pre-frog days.
Now if only we could get the Mossad to give us a hand…….
May 1st, 2006 at 11:19 pm
BFUser says:
The reason why the spam went up is, the spammers wants BlueFrog users to think that there is an increase in spams. But really, these spams are all sent from the same guy who sent out the threat.
May 1st, 2006 at 11:29 pm
GunSlinger says:
Messages 15-17 sum it up perfectly, please DO NOT be fooled by this spammer, keep using the frog, he is obviously being hurt by our actions and is resorting to scare tactics in a attempt to salvage something from his ‘business’, the reality is he’s actually helping us fight the good cause.
Why? Well this morning when i got home after work I had 69 spam mails waiting this morning most of them addressed to my BF registered domain, so thats now 69 BF opt-outs making their way to him
Go BlueFrog you’ll always have a place in my system tray
May 1st, 2006 at 11:55 pm
demon says:
Heh, you guys don’t get it, do you? Today it’s just one guy spamming you and you already got so many junk, now imagen an army of spammers, and by army I mean like 20 ppl spamming the shit out of your frogy
let me give couple of numbers so you guys can have a rough idea of what’s going on here as this is gonna be a really huge war and you, the frog keepers, will be the main victims. Now the numbers are:
avg mailer can send at least 10mln emails a day, and what we have here, half a mln email list… heh, so basically the chances are you are gonna get 20 emails from one mailer. Now multiply that number by 20 mailers, what do you get? Correct answer - 400 a day! And trust me, if avg spammer can send 10 mln the advanced spammer’s numbers a lot more, I would say something like 50mln a day… Now that the guys you don’t wanna spam you.
Anyway, like I said, this is gonna be something really big, so you guys better stay out of this mess while it’s not too late. And remember, the spam will never end unless the whole email infrastructure is changed with a genius system in place…
This is just one of the many attempts to stop the spam and will end up like the others…
P.S. Mess with the BEST, die like the REST!
May 1st, 2006 at 11:55 pm
david says:
Hello, Blue Frong ROCKS!!! Keep up the good job guys!
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:00 am
Gkar says:
Yep, the spammers are running scared using these scare tactics (both here and in the emails) - but here’s the upside - all those threats; report them via the usual way to Blue Security - it’s convieniently supplying the IP addresses of their entire spam bot-network to blue security via us (in the email headers) which makes it that much easier to shut down
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:02 am
GunSlinger says:
ok demon lets do the math, you say i could receive upto 400 spam mails a day if i continue to use Blue Frog, so thats 400 reports from me going back, now lets multiply that 400 by the whole BF community 472,848 x 400 = 189,139,200 thats an awful lot of reports isn’t it.
———
He’s blue not green but he’s still lean and mean keep using the frog
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:19 am
rusticdog says:
[quote]Anyway, like I said, this is gonna be something really big, so you guys better stay out of this mess while it’s not too late. And remember, the spam will never end unless the whole email infrastructure is changed with a genius system in place…[/quote]
HA! By spamming people who use spam reporting services, what do you think that will achieve ?
It’s already easier to filter out the emails, as most spam databases have records, and the originating IP addresses are all propogated on SpamCop among other RBL services.
Kudos to the Frog
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:21 am
TAC says:
I’ve seen my spam counts drop from over 120+ per day to around 20.
That little BlueFrog has worked wonderfully for me and I WILL continue to use it.
I see a pattern emerging from reading the obvious spammer messages in this page - they’re actually quite ignorant.
It’s not enough that they’re illiterate, suffer from little education and are obviously the spawn of poor breeding stock. They are now resorting to downright bratty behaviour.
I am laughing so hard.
I just have one word in response to their latest tactics: suffer!
LOL!
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:23 am
demon says:
nope, you guys won’t get it… but you will be the one who’s gonna regret that kept that little tiny frogy in your systray… that’s fine with me though, I don’t care but you guys better get ready for the big changes in your inboxes. I’m done here…
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:26 am
demon says:
“I am laughing so hard.
I just have one word in response to their latest tactics: suffer!”
lol
I’m the one who’s laughing at stupid ppl just like you cause you simply don’t understand of what’s going on here… Yeah, laugh out loud, while u can, cause soon u r gonna cry lol you know why? cause you’r too stupid…
and you know what’s the main idea behind this whole frogy shit? ummm… let me guess, you still don’t get it! I knew it, cause guess why, you’re too stupid! Now, the main idea is to become a really big company using your resources, simpy using you for free to reach their goal, which is to fool ppl with another unsuccessful attempt to stop the spam… yeah, you think they are smart guys, look my spam is lower by 100 but u don’t get the main picture man, get life, grow up and start thinking.
Anyway, since you are so stupid why would kill my time on you, ok go ahead, provide CPU, Memory, B/W to those guys, let them grow up on it and when the time comes they will just drop u and you’ll end up with nothing but 1000+ emails in your inbox every day… lol that’s gonna be funny…
good luck.
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:35 am
Matt Lowe says:
The Blue Security site does appear to have been hit by a DDoS, but the service still appears to be up. My guess is that Blue Frog is going to be VERY busy for the next week or two, but ultimately the spammers are not going to achieve much with this attack. I was shocked to get nearly 150 emails over the weekend, as opposed to the usual 5-10 a day but I shall not be deterred and I hope the rest of the community will remain solid on this too.
Blue Frog is an ethical way of reclaiming our inboxes and, despite being in a turbulent time at present, we shall prevail. Anyone who seriously thinks that by uninstalling Blue Frog they will magically stop receiving these emails is deluding theirself. Spammers are notorious for these ridiculous underhanded tactics and they will continue trying them. Just stay vigilant.
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:54 am
John Corliss says:
Why do people find it so hard to stop getting spam in their email accounts? All you have to do is take down any web pages that indicate your domain and user ID. Then contact your ISP and have them change your user ID (and thus your email address.) Use a series of randomized alphanumeric characters in your new one. Then set up a throw away email address (say a Yahoo! account for instance.) Next, inform everybody in your address book of your new email addresses, being careful to give the main one only to those who can be trusted not to give it away by sending you an “e-card” or including you in a group send without BCCing your address. Use the throw-away account for doing business and requesting passwords. Doing all this will work for a long time, but not forever. When the spam starts re-appearing, contact your ISP and get another email address that, like the last one, contains a user ID that is a series of randomized alpha-numeric characters. I’ve done this and it works perfectly.
May 2nd, 2006 at 1:05 am
Tom says:
You can stop the anti-bluesecurity spam from getting into your inbox if you are running a current version of Outlook: Simply create a rule moving any message containing “www.bluesecurity.com” to the spam folder or delete it (I suggest the spam folder so you can review the crap at your leisure).
Good luck!
Tom
May 2nd, 2006 at 1:17 am
Ryan Whalen says:
I’ll add my voice to the chorus: I started using Bluefrog sometime ago, and experienced a DEFINITE decrease in spam. Two of my addresses have been affected by the recent attack. They were on this spammer’s list, and he has used Blue Security’s Do not Intrude registry to isolate me as a Blue Frog user.
Over the past few days I’m getting quite a few spams from the same source. I continue reporting them all to Blue Security. They are all coming from the same one or two spammers and they are apparently intended to scare me away from using Blue Frog.
I know it will slow or stop soon as it simply isn’t profitable for this guy to waste resources spamming me to inifinty when he could be hawking watches to suckers. They’re just trying to scare away as many BF users as they can and attempt to make the system appear counter-productive. What they have effectively done is shown that they are being negatively affected by BF.
Even if I wanted to stop the spam uninstalling/stopping reporting would have NO result. It’s not like these sorts of people would gracefully keep their word and remove me from their mail list.
May 2nd, 2006 at 1:30 am
TAC says:
–Oh, look now. I apologise for the length, but it was quite necessary.
–Bad, illegible English:
>lol
>
>I’m the one who’s laughing at stupid ppl just like you cause you simply don’t understand of what’s going on here… Yeah, laugh out loud, while u can, cause soon u r gonna cry lol you know why? cause you’r too stupid…
>and you know what’s the main idea behind this whole frogy shit? ummm… let me guess, you still don’t get it! I knew it, cause guess why, you’re too stupid! Now, the main idea is to become a really big company using your resources, simpy using you for free to reach their goal, which is to fool ppl with another unsuccessful attempt to stop the spam… yeah, you think they are smart guys, look my spam is lower by 100 but u don’t get the main picture man, get life, grow up and start thinking.
>Anyway, since you are so stupid why would kill my time on you, ok go ahead, provide CPU, Memory, B/W to those guys, let them grow up on it and when the time comes they will just drop u and you’ll end up with nothing but 1000+ emails in your inbox every day… lol that’s gonna be funny…
>good luck.
–Understandable English:
Hello, I am the one who is laughing at stupid people just like you, because you simply do not understand what is going on here.
Yes, you may very well laugh out loud whilst you can. But soon it will be you who will cry.
And if you would like to know why, it is because you are very stupid.
And do you know what the main idea is behind this whole pile of “froggy” faecal matter?
Let me make a considered guess for you if, perchance, you continue to lack illumination.
–This following bit was quite confusing. But I’ll do my best.
I knew it, because guess why – you are too stupid!
The main idea is to become a really big company using your very own resources for scant return whilst achieving their own goal of fooling people with another unsuccessful attempt to stop unsolicited commercial email.
Yes, you must really think that they are smart people.
“Oooh look! My spam is lower by 100.”
But you fail to perceive the overall picture my fellow man.
Get a life.
Grow up and start thinking for yourself.
Anyway, since you are so stupid why would I waste my “script kiddie” talents on you?
–Here’s what I read between the lines in the last bit:
Go ahead! Willingly provide CPU time, memory and bandwidth to those debonair gentlemen. Let them successfully berate my sponsor to drop me completely, thus leaving me at my own wits to seek alternative income! Let me wilt away and suffer with all the other illiterate and ignorant spammers!
Will you do all this for the purpose of having no spam in your inbox every day?
That’s going to be quite funny!
–Yes. Well. Maybe not quite the impact you were after - except for that last bit (huzzah to you!). After translation it sounds quite childish to me.
–I did my best to convey the electronic scrawling of an under-developed mind. It was nice to see that you ultimately did see it our way and saw the humour in your own eventual demise.
–Good for you.
May 2nd, 2006 at 1:40 am
Johnny says:
Oh my Gosh, spam just got worst, i really don’t wanan be involved with this…and i thought it was bad before.
May 2nd, 2006 at 2:21 am
Greenboy says:
Interesting. I came in today to think “Ah crap, I’ve got landed in the middle of a lamer war.”
Funny thing is - I’ve had the software uninstalled for months, and not used my account on there - so it’s been deleted due to inactivity, but I’m still receiving the spam. I’m not too worried. The delete key’s a handy thing.
May 2nd, 2006 at 3:12 am
redders says:
The spammers are just stupid to even bother spamming blue security members, if they had any sense they’d just remove all of them from their lists as i doubt even one person on the ‘do not include’ register would ever buy from a spammer, also these spammers don’t seem to realise that 99% of their emails are caught and put in the spam filter by most mail services, all blue frog is doing is reporting them, stopping blue frog wouldn’t mean we’d read their crap, it would just mean that we wouldn’t do anything about it. Basically they’d make more money if they removed the ‘do not include’ members from their lists and spammed everyone else…
May 2nd, 2006 at 3:19 am
Wayne says:
Just came into work and happy to note that my Frog is in full battle gear submitting opt-outs to another low-life. Go Frog Go!
Spammers, I realize that most of you are sociopaths, so maybe you want even remotely understand this, but the Blue community is never going to let you get away with spamming its members. We know your threats are empty. What are you going to do? Fill up our Bulk mail folders? What a joke. You can send 500 emails a day to our Bulk folders and you know what we’ll do? Drink our coffee, click 1-button to report all 500 to the Frog and drink some more coffee. Ah, life is good.
May 2nd, 2006 at 3:36 am
freecode says:
Wow,
So, not only will anyone not respond to the query about the syn floods attacking the blue frog tool, but now I am called “especially uninformed”? Jesus H. folks, if this is how the Blue Frog community respond to any criticism - then I am happy that I uninstalled the tool. It did not reduce any SPAM noticeably for me, the SPAM kept coming.
This attack has stopped (apparently for now - gone back to sending the crap pr0n and other useless garbage it seems) in its direct threats, but if you think that a DDoS is legal - you are ill-informed. Anyone involved in such activities willingly is engaging in a criminal act.
I have no tolerance for Spammers, but if we sued the ROKSO Top 200 we would be better off than engaing in anything even remotely illegal. If there is even the slightest chance that what Blue Security is doing is considered illegal, I will not use that methodology. If you want to really fight this, then work with the FBI on the CAN-SPAM violators and report them for their activities.
I applaud your efforts to stand against SPAM, but I won’t be joining you when there are better legal methods for dealing with these folks. If we knocked off the Top 200 from ROKSO - 80 -90 % of SPAM (globally) would cease.
You may be feeling angry because of the actions of this spammer, but it is not even close to how I feel when I made a comment to the vendor and did not receive a reply to the concern over the syn flood and have now been attacked with SPAM because I only *tried* the tool. It is a violation of my privacy and it pisses me off to no end. Further, the stupid replies saying I am ill-informed comes off as nothing more than arrogant bullsh*t.
I prefer working with Law Enforcement to end this mess - I know that to be legal and above-board. I would gladly bring a class-action suit against this spammer or assist the government in shutting him down. I have zero love for them, but I am not going to take it from the other side either. It’s your party - I may have accepted the invitation once, but I think the concern I have is legitimate - and no amount of screaming otherwise is a realistic answer - it’s grandstanding. If you want to attack me because I am speaking up about my own experience - then you are not that far removed from the behavior of the spammers.
I am not advising anyone to change their behavior - they are free to choose their own path. I am telling you about *my experience* and I am surprised by the commentary. I would expect that the company would have responded when I submitted that comment as to *why* I was removing the tool, but I heard nothing in response. So far, still the same.
When this attack started, I informed law enforcement, told them it was a developing situation, and have passed it on directly to the cybercrime division through a special agent. What you have done to stop the attack is claim that you are “winning” at something. There is no winning here, unless the spammer and DDoS attackers are stopped, caught and prosecuted. Everything else is ill-informed bullsh*t.
Have a nice day all.
freecode
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:43 am
KingOFthePOOPeaters says:
I work for a spammer.
So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.
Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.
But trust me…. You don’t.
I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about.
This is how bad info gets passed around.
If you dont know about the topic….Dont make yourself sound like you do.
Cuz some farkers beleive anything they hear.
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:43 am
RapidFire says:
Hi demon. Do you sell only V|agra or have also pills to “increase your IQ”?
From your comments it seems to me that you could use the IQ pills. Oh, are they fake too? Why I’m not surprised, reading your whinnings and hollow threats? LOL
So your powerful spamming ring can send me 500 junk mails each day? No big issue. Before the frog I was receiving your crap adverts by the thousends. Daily. So I won’t be scared by your tiny thing. Eat your viagra and take our frogs bites like a man (if you can, in spite of how much fake viagra you gulp).
Oh, BTW. Let the spam coming so SpamCop and other RBL’s can block your entire zombie network. I’m sure that your “sponsors” will be happy like hornets seeing their business go by the sink, and hopefully they will blame you and the other bragging idiots like you. Maybe one of your sponsors get so happy to give you concrete boots and a trip by the botton of the river. You will be -not- missed.
Regards, moron.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:11 am
Scott says:
Blue Security is for suckers.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:19 am
Inglix the Mad says:
I use the frog and have received 3 of these. I laughed at every single one of them. They must be pretty desperate if they’re sending me that garbage instead of small cap stocks, penis enlargement ads, viagra, cialis, and other drugs, free software, cheap software. Gosh I could just go on.
My spam is down over 75%. Considering I used to get anywhere from 100-200 messages a day (after filters) that’s pretty impressive.
Blue Frog is not perfect, and part of me wishes they had called it the “Blue Badger”
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:31 am
Brad says:
The spammers scare email does ask one question that I’ve always wondered. How are these “Russian Jews” making money? They don’t charge to join or download the frog and they don’t have advertising on the website.
Perhaps they are making their money from spammers.
I know these guys by the way and they are not to be trusted. Very shady. The whole “U.S. office address” but they are really in Israel? What’s up with that? I know for a fact that their “office” in California is a Post Office box….does that sound reputable?
Also, I have to believe that “David Johnson” the “contributing writer that wrote this supposed “news story” is really on the payroll of Blue Security.
Just wondering!
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:33 am
Just Another Frog says:
In addition to the frog, all my spam is forwarded to my ISP spam investigators and the FTC (SPAM@UCE.GOV for the rest of the gang). Please send all warnings and spam to kseise@iwon.com. My filters look forward to hearing from you.
Is the frog a DDoS or just a bunch of individuals with simultaneous opt out requests? I don’t think I am using any illegal tactics in having BlueSecurity tell me where to send the op-out requests.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:42 am
David Johnston says:
Blue Security got a $3 Million investment from a venture capital firm. They plan on making money by selling their services to companies and corporations. I am certainly not on the payroll, I just like the lower amount of spam.
In fact, I’ve only received that one threatening email so far. I didn’t get any spam at all after that or overnight on that account. One of my other accounts received a single spam. That’s about it.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:49 am
stu black says:
OK - can someone answer me this: How come today’s attack (at about 1am UK time) came thru’ my inbox rather than being filtered out as spam which is what normally happens? Just curious.
FYI, the spam I receive is probably about 50% of what it was before I signed up. May be just coincidence, but this attack seems so desparate, it probably isn’t. So I’ll stay registered.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:49 am
stu says:
OK - can someone answer me this: How come today’s attack (at about 1am UK time) came thru’ my inbox rather than being filtered out as spam which is what normally happens? Just curious.
FYI, the spam I receive is probably about 50% of what it was before I signed up. May be just coincidence, but this attack seems so desparate, it probably isn’t. So I’ll stay registered.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:50 am
RapidFire says:
Brad, if you were really interested in knowing “How are these “Russian Jews” making money”, you would have gone to Google and searched by “blue security million”.
The first instance is:
http://www.benchmark.com/news/israel/2005/04_04_2005.php
and there is explained the Blue Security business model and “where they got the money”. This info have been available in the net since 4 april 2005.
But you’re not really interested, are you?
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:50 am
Jonathan says:
Just throwing in my 2 cents… I received about 18 spams in one of my inboxes registered with bluesecurity and none of the others. My overall spam has decreased incredibly over the last few months. The frog works!
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:57 am
Brad says:
My My Rapid Fire - you certainly have no problem jumping to the defense of the wondering Blue Security folks.
Why the fake U.S. office address? If they are doing such a great service for the U.S. email audience why don’t they base their business in the U.S.? Or if they are only in Israel why not just say that?
No axe to grind here - and no blind defense of either side - just think the whole thing is a little fishy -
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:57 am
David Johnston says:
These messages are probably not being caught by your filters because they’re not your traditional spam email. They don’t link back to any spammer’s website, and they’re remarkably well-written. They may also be using a larger botnet to send the spam, so it’s originating from IP addresses that the filters don’t usually see.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:58 am
Inglix the Mad says:
Umm, Brad, they probably do have a US Business address. Kind of like how the company I work for has one in Canada, but it’s just a postal drop.
You do that for a variety of business reasons, but the most common is so that mail can be bulk shipped to you.
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:04 am
PsychoHazard says:
The funny thing is, I hadn’t been a member until I started getting these threat-spams. I figure that anything that pisses off and scares the spammers enough to make them resort to these tactics has to be worth something.
Oh, and lest I forget…
I wanted to respond to something demon said:
“P.S. Mess with the BEST, die like the REST!”
So you’ve seen Hackers a few times. Oooh scary.
I ph34r ur 1337 h4×0r 5ki11z.
No, really, I’m shaking in my boots…
Ok, that’s because I am laughing so hard, but you take what you can get in this life.
You want to use scare tactics and toss around idle threats? Go for it.
Take this message to your people, spammer:
BRING IT!
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:05 am
Inglix the Mad says:
LOL PsychoHazard.
I showed this to a couple of people at work. Now every single one of them is signing up for the frog.
This is the best free advertising they could have asked for!
Oh and demon, I laugh as I fart in your general direction.
I just have this urge to stick my fingers in my ears and go “nyahh nyahh nyahh!”
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:10 am
David Johnston says:
Yes, it seems that at about the same time as this spammer started sending these intimidating emails, he started a DDoS attack against the Blue Security website. It was up yesterday, but slow for most of the day. Then it went down in the evening and hasn’t been up since. I can report, however, that this has not stopped the Blue Frog software from functioning
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:28 am
Tom Edwards says:
I’ll link this post on a few of the forums I go to.
Also, who else is going to be donating to Blue when their site comes back up?
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:51 am
Bill M says:
I don’t use Blue Frog — I have other means of avoiding spam that seem to be working. THe thread here is fascnating though. A couple of comments:
For the spammers — 1) I believe your threatening e-mails would be illegal as extortion in any country, regardless of whether the Blue Frog tactics are legal or not. 2) The fact that you respond at all to the tactics shows that your business model is vulnerable. 3) You should figure out that anyone going to the lengths to allow their PC and bandwidth to be used send volumes of messages is never going to buy anything you push.
For the anti spammers — 1) Don’t confuse poor English with stupidity. The spammers may be nasty and immoral, but not necessarily stupid. 2) Keep your means on the clean side of legal, regardless of the temptation. “Never wrestle with pigs. It gets you dirty and the pig likes it.” 3) Be sure you understand the business model — many of the spammers are paid for messages sent, not product sold, much like traditional advertisers. The best offensive weapon is to educate everyone to NEVER BUY ANYTHING they see advertised in an unsolicited e-mail. When the money dries up, the spammers will blow away.
Cheers!
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:54 am
Marva says:
I got two of the emails (so far) and I’ve never signed up for Blue Security so they sure as heck aren’t getting the email addresses from the Blue Security database. They must be using their own spam lists.
May 2nd, 2006 at 7:47 am
Devin says:
I’m actually quite amused that they are telling people to remove themselves from blue frog security but it is not possible for them to do so because they currently have their website shutdown…..
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:09 am
mcsolas says:
I am getting spammed like crazy since all this started happening.
Cant speak for others, but I am getting way more spam right now. They do all seem to be related and thunderbird is picking up the hint on the bayesian filters finally.
Hope they sort this out soon!
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:15 am
Pirate says:
People are so stupid: DOS attacking spammers, are you guys serious? Blue Security does not DOS attack anyone, especially not with your personal computer. Stop believing / creating myths.
Uninstalling software *you* chose to install because of a spammer - sheesh, get a backbone.
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:17 am
Devin says:
I also am getting a high degree of spam at the moment, but the address they are spamming primarily was receiving so much it was highly unusable anyway. Another interesting point is google’s spam filters are already filtering out their messages anyway. I love GMail for your domain =)
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:24 am
fred says:
too : 69
I’d like to tell you one thing.
Hardly i can belive that someon can stop the team’s and people who involved in spam.
I do have friends they spam and and they have KING’S life, i know alot and reading alot as well, so far they lead the world all that projects spamhaus and some many others, cant effect on them, they have money they have power they have all they need.
my persona opinion.
May 2nd, 2006 at 9:33 am
fred says:
too : 69
I’d like to tell you one thing.
Hardly i can belive that someon can stop the team’s and people who involved in spam.
I do have friends they spam and and they have KING’S life, i know alot and reading alot as well, so far they lead the world all that projects spamhaus and some many others, cant effect on them, they have money they have power they have all they need.
my persona opinion.
May 2nd, 2006 at 9:42 am
Jimmy says:
I’m going to check it out as soon as I can get the site to come up.
May 2nd, 2006 at 9:47 am
Ar says:
Been using bluefrog for 1 month now. My average spam has gone down from 20-30 a day to 10-14. Somedays i get 5. So i am happy with the service.
Got these threatening emails and here is what i did. I added 3 more email acocunts to bluefrog.One of them gets 1200+ spam a day and i had abandoned it long ago, but now i am gona use it to report.
As for clock cycles. Guess what slimeballs, I am leaving 3 PC’s switched on 24/7 from now. Enjoy the flood :p
May 2nd, 2006 at 10:19 am
Random Thoughts says:
BlueSecurity E-mail
So I got this letter in my e-mail about BlueSecurity.com, a anti-spam service I signed up for. Anyone else get this???
Hey,
You are recieving this email because you are a member of BlueSecurity (http://www.bluesecurity.com).
You signed up because…
May 2nd, 2006 at 10:22 am
Pope Ratzo says:
After hearing about this story, I’ve decided to definitely become a user of Blue Frog and supporter of BlueSecurity.
I’m not the least bit worried about these threatening emails because I’ve got SpamSieve running and it does a great job. I’ll designate the first threat I get as spam and I’ll never see another one.
I wouldn’t even need Blue Security, but I’m so angry about this threat by spammers that I’m going to not only use Blue Frog on every one of my email addresses at home and at work, but I will recommend that all my friends and associates do the same.
I do NOT appreciate threats. The quickest way to make me an enemy is to threaten me, and that’s exactly what the spammers have done.
May 2nd, 2006 at 10:37 am
Pope Ratzo says:
I hope you all are able to see which of the above comments are from spammers, pretending to be Blue Frog users. MisterX for example. Arabella too, probably.
They’d love us to believe that there are terrible consequences to fighting back. The truth is, Blue Frog is causing spammers a lot of problems, or they wouldn’t be going to this extent.
That alone will make me a loyal user of Blue Frog. In fact, I intend to sign up for dozens of accounts just so I can use Blue Frog on them all and cause problems for spammers. This is war.
May 2nd, 2006 at 10:40 am
Pope Ratzo says:
You should all be aware that there are several quite effective anti-spam programs available for Macs and PCs. I’ve tried a few of them and I’ve bought SpamSieve for my own Mac. I see so little spam since then that it’s just not an issue for me any more.
But I’m attracted to the idea of making life unpleasant for spammers and that’s why I’ll join Blue Security
May 2nd, 2006 at 10:46 am
Just Another Frog says:
I have added three new computers to my little 24-7 bluefrog cluster. They really have nothing better to do than to say hello to spammers for me.
My ISP will not shut me down. That is what the A in ADSL stands for. Asynchronous. They throttle the upload speed. The beauty of the bluefrog is that we don’t need a big fat high speed connection. We just need a lot of other users to opt out at the same time. Every bit counts in that situation.
Do not trust an email from your ISP. As the spammers have taught you, headers can be faked. If you think there is a problem, call them. On their real number. Don’t wait for them to call you. They wont. The spammers might. If you do get a call, feel free to talk to them for a long long long time.
Every minute they waste fighting the opt-out request is time wasted from real spamming.
This is great publicity for Bluefrog. Go spread the word.
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:31 am
Inglix the Mad says:
I’ve posted my copy of the message (one of the spammer messages I received) in the IT department at work. So far every single person who has seen has commented: I’ve got to join that!
Go Frog GO!
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:56 am
Milek says:
I am happy to be part of Blue community
GO FROG GO!
Database is not breached!
Spammers are using their old list! (my “Blue” addresses are not compromised!
Do not fall for their desperate warnings! (think why whould they send them other than they feel fear…)
Spread a word about blue community!
Maybe it is a Judge Day for them!!!
Be part of this…
May 2nd, 2006 at 12:07 pm
NPG says:
1 Spammers sent me mail I didn’t ask for about junk I don’t want.
2 I put a frog on my workstation ( becaming a soldier in this before it was even a war ).
3 Spam decreases
4 Spam increases ( in the last 48 hours ) mostly intimidation form spammers.
5 Our command post ( bluesecurity.com ) comes under seige.
THE WAR IS ON
Now that we are officially @ war with the spammers, every workstation in our domain is being issued a frog.
May 2nd, 2006 at 1:13 pm
Rob says:
Go BLUEFROG!
It’s thrilling to see things really ramping up. Even all the messages from spammers on this website are good news — they’d much rather spend their time earning money than this frantic damage control:
* posting tons of messages in forums everywhere, such as here and slashdot
* and using up their bandwidth and server time spamming *only* people who are guaranteed not to buy anything.
* and sending threats that go way beyond simple CANSPAM violations and start breaking serious, better-enforced laws.
Every day this goes on their money is draining away, and their chances of ending up in prison increase. Of course, many of the larger spammers already filter out our addresses; it’s only the smaller guys who, I guess, don’t know how to use a simple API to scrub their lists - they are really getting burned.
After all, it only takes one mass mailing that gets your biggest customer piles of complaints (and a server too busy to take orders!) to lose that customer, lose your reputation as a successful spammer, and eventually lose your shirt.
I’ve been a blue frog member since the early days, and there’s no question it’s been effective. The past day or so has seen a bump, of course, but pretty much everything is automated by now so I don’t even see them.
Obviously (not sure if this even needs to be said…) no issues with the frog taking up my bandwidth, no complaints from my ISP, no legal concerns (since it’s not a DDoS, just one complaint per spam I get), no spam to my listed addresses that weren’t already getting spammed (meaning database wasn’t breached), etc..
Anything else? BlueSecurity does have a business model (they will be charging eventually for full-domain protection; they’re current charging for full coverage for businesses; they got tons of venture capital). They don’t have to charge for small guys like me, because it’s a win-win partnership: I build their list and their clout, and in return they reduce my spam and help me feel like I’m doing something useful. Their main facility is located in Israel, if I remember correctly from their website (why would they keep that secret?), though they have employees and board members from all over the place.
Cheers, and to my fellow BF members: keep up the good work!
-Rob
May 2nd, 2006 at 1:18 pm
duvell says:
After reading all the comments in this thread I decided to take some action based on the information I read. The “warnings” being sent are indeed extortion. So I went to the FBI website and found an online form for reporting internet related crime.
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/
If you want a fairly easy way to report this and get the FBI’s attention this is a good way to go.
I have a very low tolerance for spam and will fight it by whatever legal means is available to me. I have ZERO tolerance for threats.
May 2nd, 2006 at 3:19 pm
David Johnston says:
Sounds good. Blue Security also reports spammers to the government authorities in case you were wondering
May 2nd, 2006 at 3:28 pm
Alex says:
Before this, I never heard of blue security.
When their website comes back up, im downloading blue frog.
May 2nd, 2006 at 3:29 pm
AlphaCentauri says:
A internet business that wants to generate sales via spam will go to the spammer who gives the best value. Why use someone who will charge you to send your message to the 500,000 recipients with addresses in the DNIR that will cause you trouble and will never buy anything, when you could use a different spammer who will send it to people who are at least indifferent and potentially are customers? The guy who is threatening the BF community members is losing business to his competitors by refusing to allow BF to help him clean his lists.
Why wouldn’t he just get his lists cleaned as well? Because he fears more than just getting his clients reported to their ISP’s. He is likely involved in illegal activity, and Blue Security is reporting him to various law enforcement agencies. He’s making money by stealing people’s identities or selling kiddie porn or other activities of that type. His income doesn’t depend on how many messages he sends, but on how many people’s credit card numbers he can steal. He is worth fighting, and a few more hundred spams, all forwarded to BF and deleted in one keystroke, is a small price to pay.
As far as whether BF constitutes DoS, every LEGAL spam in the U.S. must have an opt out address. If every recipient contacted every address, the response would be equal. BF is merely assisting me by researching the correct opt out addresses for the ILLEGAL spams so I can opt out of those, too. And it acts as a proxy so I don’t have to confirm my own email address to opt out. It is merely allowing me to exercise my legal rights under CAN-SPAM. And by the way, BF does not bother websites whose spam is CAN-SPAM compliant. The only ones complaining can’t complain in court since they would have to admit they are violating the law.
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Michael says:
I received about 30 spam emails after getting the threatening spam. But, I have not received any for the last several hours. I assume my ISP caught up with them as the emails were directed to me and other members of my ISP via CCs.
In any event, my frog has been working overtime. I also reported the threatening spam to the FBI and the FTC.
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:27 pm
Mr. B says:
I have tried everything to rid myself of spam. My latest attempt is Blue Frog. Before using Blue Frog I got around 200 junk emails a day, and after using Blue Frog for about a month I can see the number is actually going up gradually. I easily average over 400 a day now. I recommended several friends to try Blue Frog and they have experienced increases too.
Since obviously some people report decreases, I’m curious as to why it doesn’t seem to work for me. I don’t even surf the web very much, let alone visit questionable sites, and I never leave my email address. One thing I noticed from reading a lot of comments online though, it seems the people that experience a reduction didn’t have much spam to begin with.
It could be that there is some critical mass that once reached it just isn’t possible to reduce your spam because it is known to too many spammers..
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:29 pm
laurie says:
Hi.
i dont wanna take sides here but i see here that bluesecurity people posting all the posts not even a single member of bluesecurity here.
i can see as well some spammers posting here.
i personaly not happy while reciving spam.
but i been a member of bluesecurity just to check out the system.
and i think that blueseuciry does many bad and not allowed things.
now the spammers you must stop dosing them and kill the website and all the services.
i understand that they want you to stop and you wont stop because you’re the power at this point.
i had to change my email since this war started i recived today over 50 rotated emails with different subject and email boddys.
we can see that spammers having the power on bluesecurity and bluesecurity cant do nothing to be protected.
thats not how company shall look.
i’m personaly also a member OF SOME PRIVET FORUMS AND AM READING ALOT BOUT THIS BLUESECURITY AND I CAN FEEL THE END WILL BE BAD FOR YOU.
ofcourse i dont wanna take sides nor say who is right and whos not.
just remember both sides stop that.
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:38 pm
David Johnston says:
You should not see any increase in spam due to signing up with Blue Security. When they send opt-out requests, they do not use your email. They tell the spammer to use their tool which allows them to query their encrypted list of emails (both real and fake) with the contents of their list and remove all matches. This would not allow you to get added to any spammer’s lists unless he already knew your email address. The increase in spam is more likely due to something else. I didn’t see an immediate decrease in the amount of spam I received either. It took a few months for my spam to drop down to its current levels. My main email address is fairly public compared to many out there, so I consider Blue Security to be doing an excellent job. I know it’s not my ISP…they say they don’t filter any spam.
May 2nd, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Eli says:
You guys misunderstand the threat… having the software or even the plugin on your computer is not what this spammer believes is the problem, and uninstalling it will do you no good. Even if you uninstall the software, your email is still in BS’ database. Conversely, you could have the software without being in the database, if you never registered there. If you want to give into the threats (because for some reason spam mail actually scares you) then you need to remove yourself from the database, which, ironically, you can’t do while the site is down. I, for one, will see this through until the end, because, come on, it’s just a little spam.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:09 pm
duah@hotmail.com says:
what bugs me about this blue security app,is it constantly crashes firefox!!
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:28 pm
ronald says:
bluesecurity doing very wrong with the starting the war, i dont care but so far i still recive spam i still recive advertised web sites.
and they websites are up and running.
if you can spammers and seem my post remove me from the lists please i really unistalled the bluefrog i understood the illegal way bluesecurity working and i wont let my computer to be used by no one.
my email sabinennc@aol.com please kindly remove me and stop spamming on me i have posted this msg to several people and they will also unistall if i can be removed from the list and what i shall do please mail me and i’ll follow the steps thank you.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:35 pm
killthem says:
Show time knock knock
i been reading the forum here.
yes blue security everyone hates you …
telling people bullshit how come such a big company allowes them self to make posts around each forum in the world ?
ok means what ? that you got big heat deep in your ass KTHANKS
ronald be sure that when bluesecurity expires as a company this lists will be terminated for ever. sorry atm you can conatct me at
killthem@bk.ru
and we can see what can be done.
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:48 pm
SpamKing says:
TheWarIsON You already in war which you cant even do anything.
TheWarIsON The database owend by many people if not you wouldn’t be sitting here and watching each forum and each post, how much they pay you 12$ per hour to add good posts from different names on every forum ? 24/7 guy ? ok who cares.
TheWarIsON we both know how deep you went to shit.
TheWarIsON we all know that bluesecurity loosing members and users.
TheWarIsON we all know that bluesecurity started the war with wrong people.
TheWarIsON we all know that what ever you post here alll bullshit.
TheWarIsON we all know that you loosing your mind and your company does the same.
TheWarIsON we all know you guys a group of gays
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:36 pm
Maryon Jeane says:
I had forgotten to reinstall Blue Frog after a complete overhaul of our systems - thanks for the reminder, demon (I’m sure, parsing your posts here, that you are the originator of the ‘bluefrog spam’ we’ve been sent)!
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:37 pm
MileK says:
Ha ha ha what a patetic loser…
killthem… LOL…who you gona kill..ha ha
Yes leave us e-mail please…I will beg you to remove me from your list. Actually please send me as much spam as you like on all my hotmail and yahoo addresses…
killthem…do you feel the antiSPAM heat…or it is just hot in your apartment…
Do not fall for this stupid threat. I am glad that they are pissed off. Remember times you felt like that receiving their spam. Luckily there is lot of filters but blue is blues for my ears
GO FROG GO! Proud member
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:49 pm
KirkBailey says:
Go frog go!
I want to be part of the class action lawsuit! They THREATENED ME! THEY *DARE* TO BLACKMAIL ME?!? RIP THEIR WALLETS OUT! I WANT THEIR MONEY!
(I would never advocate a criminal act of physical violence against them, only a financial one in a court of law.)
THE GAUNTLET IS THROWN DOWN, and THE FROG takes it up neatly. Let the war begin!
GO FROG GO!
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:54 pm
mcsolas says:
I saw an increase 2 times, then nothing after that.
I just blocked em into tb’s spam folder, then reported them to blue. The usual treatment.
Was a bit worried when I got a modified version claiming ( correctly at the time and now too ) that blue’s site was down.
Still not sure what to make of this, I just hate spam.
May 2nd, 2006 at 6:58 pm
Dylan says:
Wow. Such rhetoric and bile about freakin’ emails. Emails, folks. These guys are talking like lowlife islamofascists, but all they do is send email.
What am I supposed to do? Quake in fear that I will have more email? Get real. I can’t believe they actually think this stuff is important enough to care about.
What is an email? It occupies no volume, it is gone forever with the click of a button (worst case) or automatically (best case.)
I would have to receive 1,000,000+ emails per day in order to feel any pain whatsoever from these losers. Let’s see them keep that up for more than 5 mins.
Oh, and a big thankyou to all the ‘ethical’ spammers that have washed their lists with BlueFrog and are keeping away from this shitstorm.
May 2nd, 2006 at 7:29 pm
MileK says:
For those who can not access blusecurity com: (Please spread)
The Blue Independence War
Today is Israel’s Independence Day. It’s a public holiday in Israel, but all of us in Blue Security are working. But we are glad we’re working. We’re helping the community fight the Blue Independence War. We fight for our freedom from spammers and cyber criminals. This is our big chance to reclaim the Internet. We must not let it slip from our hands.
Some desperate spammers are doing its worst to harm our community. They’d like us to back off, and agree to get their spam silently. Needless to say, that is not going to happen. We’re not here to listen to their vile threats and fraudulent advertisements. We’re here to stand up for our right not to be let alone.
You may wonder what you can do to help win the Blue Independence War. Here are some ideas:
Run your frog and report your spam
Tell you friends to join the fight
Write to your local newspaper about Blue Frog
Search for news sites, blogs and forums that discuss “blue security” or “blue frog” and post positive comments
Ask your representative to show support for the Blue Frog
If you have a blog, write an item about the blue frog
We need to be patient and prepare for more attacks. Some top spammers embrace the change and comply. Other spammers believe they can coerce us into obedience. Let’s show them this is not going to happen.
May 2nd, 2006 at 7:34 pm
AlphaCentauri says:
Can someone edit out those email addresses the spammers posted if they can’t confirm them as real? I am very suspicious they are real addresses of BF anti-spammers from this list they are so proud of assembling from pre-and-post washed email lists.
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:29 pm
Yinepuhotep says:
You know, it’s kind of sad that there are still some people in the world who actually believe that spammers have anything that even vaguely resembles ethics.
As long as spammers exist, I will have Blue Frog on my system.
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:37 pm
John says:
I don’t respond well to threats in person or at times like this! They want a fight I will do my part. I got one of these e-mails (at least one that got in my inbox and not my spam box.) The dumb A$$es later sent another e-mail with the same subject line so Gmail made it a conversation. So I went to the web site. (less the add on info in the referral) The company in this e-mail was hoodiagordoniiplus I got there 1-800 number and will call it every time I get spam now and will look for other companies like them. (they are even nice enough to let me press 2 on the phone and get a recording) each time I call they get to pay for the call.
If other people do it also it will cost them lots of cash and as the word get out that a spamer can cost you the companies will stop using them.
Blue Frog was just a side thing I did when I felt like it (or thought about it) but now I will spend 15 min a day making spam less profitable.
May 2nd, 2006 at 9:04 pm
Thraxus says:
Killthem, Crazy, any of you other spammers.
You cannot intimidate someone who was SF. After you’ve been shot at with fully automatic weaponry (ironically AK47’s, BMP’s, and crappy T72’s) and had grenades, mines, IED’s explode nearby. Well you guys are just wasting your breath and bandwidth.
You want me to fear you, it’ll take an armored company vs just me. Your emails, well, they are incapable of physically injuring me junior.
Buck up for the suds kid. Take your medicine and, well, find a different job if spamming is too hard. I hear that Kvir needs some models. You seem to be a catcher, but I doubt that’ll bother them.
Oh and I’m sure those “russian born jews” at bluesecurity.com love all the free publicity you ended giving them.
Congrats on achieving the exaxt OPPOSITE of what you wanted.
May 2nd, 2006 at 9:23 pm
OMAC says:
Hit the spammers where it hurts. Hey you spammers, I installed Blue Frog today and have it protecting all my accounts now. So far today I have reported over 300 spam emails. I am going to take this a step further and blow some gmail invies on fake email address and when the spam starts rolling in to those Blue Frog will be there ready to fight back. YOu want a fight? I am ready to reclaim my inbox!
Also, I think it’s pretty funny how most of the negative posts about Blue Security are by people with no grasp of English…or maybe they have a perfect grasp of Engrish?
You reading this spammers? Your days and bandwidth are numbered!
Blue Frog is now running on all my PCs and protecting all my accounts. Tomorrow it gets installed on my grandparents computer. After that the rest of the family and my friends.
I propose May 1 from this time forward be Blue Frog Day!
Vivat the Frog! Slow and painful death to spammers!
May 2nd, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Ar says:
I added 3 more emails to blue, and surprise, the email spam filters are recognizing the threatening mails and sending them to spam folder so blue can report them as usual.
Also the spam volume has come down. No trouble acessing email
Now from reporting 30-40 spam a day, i am reporting 300-350 a day.
If only more people had a spine and did not drop their pants and bend over ………………………………..
May 2nd, 2006 at 10:49 pm
Kiwi says:
Hi fellow frogs,
Greetings from New Zealand – Kiwi Blue Frogs are ready for whatever comes – bring it on!!
Blue Frogs of the world unite.
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:11 pm
Maako says:
My spam went up from 20 to +150 today..
That sucked..
May 3rd, 2006 at 12:47 am
Eric the Fish says:
My spam went from 40-50 messages a day to around 4. I did get the threat email, but I am keeping my blue frog runnning. Now, I get around 7 messages a day, but I, and I hope most of the Blue Frog Community, will not allow some spammer to win. Keep Blue Frog running and lets shut the suckers down!!
May 3rd, 2006 at 2:30 am
Amm says:
I have been reporting spam to BF last 3 months, but not running the Frog for opt-outs.
This last days made me to turn on the BF and opt-outs, so instead of scaring me to uninstall the BF this threat is now responsible for sending opt-out. I leave my 3 PCs on 24/7 for BF and opt-outs.
I am Norwegian, so excuse my bad english.
May 3rd, 2006 at 2:31 am
Dylan says:
Amm,
Your English is much better than the spammers here.
“OMG I GOTZ 100 NEW SPRAM AND NEVER INSATLL BLEUFROG AGAIN I SO SCARE”
I found myself really looking forward to getting home tonight to check my spam count. I’ve switched on my catch-all to boost the number of spams in my inbox. I never thought getting junk mail would be so fun.
May 3rd, 2006 at 2:45 am
Bob IC says:
I have received 25 of these threatening emails in the last two days. To quote from this email “We have devised a method to retrieve your address from their database”
This is absolute BS. I have two emails registered with Blue Frog - one is normally heavily spammed (yesterday 90 plus - normally 30-40). The other account has NOT received 1 (ZERO) of these emails let alone any other spam. So these spammers are lying when they say they have devised a way to retrieve your email. It’s a bluff.
When I received the first threatening email I understood it right away as a PANIC ATTACK from the spammers. Blue Frog is working and they don’t like it.
While I don’t know who this pissed of spammer is - he is not too bright as most of the new spam received yesterday have the same stupid childish “modus operandi” as his usual spam. He is acting like the schoolyard bully so we should consider this attempt to intimidate the web community as a badge of honor.
May 3rd, 2006 at 3:33 am
Me says:
Lol. What a noob this spammer is. Nothing else than a stupid script kiddie. Yesterday I received 55 spams and I am very happy about it, because he will get 55 complaints now. If he sends spam to 100.000 users, he will get 5.500.000 mails back.
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:05 am
Spammers Beware says:
I am adding 3 more addresses to the BlueFrog since the a-holes think that an idiotic threat is going to deter me. My only regret is that I have now reached my 10 email limit. Stupid a-holes and their stupid a-hole spam mail. Na na na na hey hey hey GOODBYE!!!
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:09 am
OMAC says:
Frank:
“Took me like 30 minuts to read all the posts and comments.
i’m a blue member you can checking me via XXXXXXXXXXX@XXXX.XXX
as i can see only bluesecurity one guy posting here and yes i do see same spelling and same way of comments which all are same.
anyway bluesecurity am out and my computer as well and am sure spammers dont need all bluesecurity people to signout they have some major heat for your company i’ll keep my way.”
Wow you see same spelling mistakes? How could you possibly see any mistakes when YOU can’t even speak the language. Frank or whoever, you are completely worthless and are a waste of space. You aren’t fooling anyone. Spammers like you need to go away and die. Your days are numbered.
Rot in hell Frank and have a nice day
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:15 am
Bob IC says:
Re: Comment from frak-211@hotmail.com. Surprised it only took you 30 minutes to read all the posts. With your level of English I would have thought a day or so have been too generous. Sounds like Russian English?
Nuff Said
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:15 am
PunkTiger says:
I’ve been using MailWasher for years, but I had never heard of Blue Frog until this morning. And reading through all these responses here has made me giggle with perverse glee. As soon as I’m home from work, I’m adding my e-mail addresses to the Blue Frog cause. (Will it run in Linux?)
Hey, Spammers, Blue Frog didn’t start this War… you did. You started it by sending us dozens of offers for “\/|arga” and “c|a1is.” You started it by sending us hundreds of e-mails for child pornography. You started it by sending us thousands of messages for “Original OEM Software, CHEAP!” This War was already going on against your type for years. The only thing Blue Frog gave us was the active voice to say “stop sending me this crap! I’m not buying it!” and the ammunition to fire back when you wouldn’t take “no” for an answer.
How do you like it now that the shoe is on the other foot?
And now, you’ve turned to extortion, scare tactics and deceit; the last acts of a cowardly individual. Thank you for letting us know we’ve got your attention. Now take the hint and peddle your illicit goods elsewhere… if you can find an “elsewhere.”
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:42 am
Blossom says:
Well well! I was wondering why I’d not been able to get on to BF’s site this morning. The spammers must be running scared if they’ve gone on the offensive. BF is evidently hitting them where it hurts… in their wallets… and they don’t like it one bit! ROFL GOOD! My spam has actually gone down about 50% since I put 3 email address on BF but getting threats won’t make me back down, I tend to get stubborn when someone threatens me. So I’ll just sit back and continue to report all my spam to BF and now that I saw that address for the FCC reporting site I’ll just drop them a message with the spam as well. Thanks BF keep the spammers running!
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:53 am
JP says:
There are three kinds of people in a war.
Those that start the war - they are called scumbags
Those that run away - they are called cowards
Those that stay and fight - they are called defenders
and
Those that counter attack - they are called brave
Keep up the war - a Blue Frogger
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:00 am
Amm says:
What can FCC do against a Russian spammer ?
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:14 am
mark says:
today whole morning trying to connect to the internet called my isp been told that my connections reciving huge amount of packets, how they know my ip ?
is bluefrog sending my ip when sending some flood to spammers websites ?
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:16 am
algo says:
Fred is real bozo, have you been to school lately son? Maybe you should brush up on your english, then you might be able to get a proper job and rake in some legal mazuma. Asshole.
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:19 am
Blossom says:
“What can FCC do against a Russian spammer ?”
Well Amm, the FCC can get in touch with their Russian counterparts and hopefully, if enough people complain, put that Russian spammer in jail or they could really hurt him… fine him!
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:21 am
Devin says:
Mark: Unless the frog uses some type of proxy then the websites would get your IP address when you fill out a form and submit it as an ‘opt-out’ request. I would however doubt that they are taking the time to attack blue frog users individually. Run a spyware and antivirus sweep on your computer (making sure to use the latest updates). I recommend spybot and adaware for spyware, it’s good to use both. I think you will probably find that you’ve got infected with a piece of malware along the way. You might even being used as a proxy to send spam or possibly a bot that’s being used to attack bluefrog.
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:43 am
Joe Rich says:
I just went to the blue security web site and followed the link here. Didn’t even know about the spammers threats because I don’t actually read any of it. Just check the subjects of the emails to make sure an email I want was not captured by mistake and then its select all and email to blue frog. I don’t care if I get 20 or 200 emails to send off ( I get about 60/day). I see no other meaningful alternative to the proactive measures of blue security. And these posts here about uninstalling blue frog are such a hoot! Anyone who listens to a spammer’s email or post needs there head examined. Until a payment system for sending email is established or a limit is imposed on the frequency of emailing we have other way to fight back.
May 3rd, 2006 at 6:07 am
mark says:
Devin thank you for trying to help me and solving the problem with me.
i have spybot installed, did the following updated the spybot has scanned the whole system nothing was found.
right now i’, using wireL connection my home connection packeted again, sometimes it just stop’s for few minuts and again loosing connection.
please advice
May 3rd, 2006 at 6:57 am
Zuzu says:
Keep the fight going. Use BlueFrog and kick some butt.
^j^
May 3rd, 2006 at 7:18 am
Ruby says:
I downloaded the Frog a couple of months ago. It’s never crashed Firefox, and the hungry little froggy has eaten up spam from multiple accounts leaving me with a much cleaner inbox.
I knew something was up when I received the threatening emails, (and really, how hollow is a threat from a spammer that he’s going to be forced to send you spam if you don’t stop using Blue Frog? That threat doesn’t even have a soft marshmallow center, just the graham cracker crust of corruption.) That the spammers had been hurt on the bottom line (or the criminal record) by what the Blue Frog community has accomplished.
First the ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you.
Then you win.
But you can’t win if you don’t fight back.
May 3rd, 2006 at 8:05 am
Tangent says:
Oh this is good, I run Linux at home, but am forced to use windows at work. Either way the frog runs great in both environments. For those who are concerned about what blue frog does, download the source code, (freely available for blue frog Linux) and read it for yourselves.
As of today, I’ve been having problems connecting the desktop client, but I’m glad to see the main site is back up with a blog. They may be attacking, but it’s only galvanized my opinion, and made me even more devout to the frog. As for them having compromised the bf database? … that’s a load of bull. I have 3 addresses in the list, and haven’t gotten a single threat message, and my spam rate has continued to go down. It’s gone down to the point where I’ve been able to re-claim two addresses that I’d once abandoned because of spam.
— Follower of the frog.
May 3rd, 2006 at 8:23 am
wiskers says:
HAHA spammers are funny. You guys are really giving me a laugh. A bunch of Russian delinquents selling cheap Asian crap complaining that an Israeli company is helping Americans ignore you. Keep it up arseholes.
Spam used to be an annoyance but now I look forward to getting it. I get tremendous satisfaction forwarding it to the fog. I love knowing that some shady Korean con artist is going to get screwed.
Go Frog
May 3rd, 2006 at 8:50 am
Estong Tutong says:
I have finished reading the article and, at the time of this writing, the first and only visible 132 comments. Finally, I get to comment.
The entire Philippine internet contingent is proud to announce its support in using Blue Frog in fighting spam, its merchants, its technical developers, its technical marketers and its entire mafia.
This is the dawn of a new spam-less era in the 21st-century of personal computers. And hence I spam thee with this little poetry:
I just hope that one day…
All the spam will pass away…
And then I shall email with comfort and ease…
With Fred the Blue Frog helping provide some mind of peace…
Adieu, unsolicited mails, you shall never be missed…
Recur you did over, and was I ever so pissed…
But along came a time as I stumbled upon a frog…
Who gave me hope against thee, made me newly agog…
Although I’m a man, I feel like a princess…
Swept up by Fred, who’s fulfilling my wishes…
Fighting foes, opting-out, shoving rants up their asses…
Complaining here, reporting there, drawing power from the masses…
Fred is no prince and he’s no good kisser…
But he delivers the goods as he keeps up the puncher…
I’m glad I’m no princess and I dream of no better…
I just want my spam to go off and away into the nether…
This has blown out of proportion…
I am so sorry, my friend…
Without further invocation…
Let me bring this torture to end…
May 3rd, 2006 at 8:56 am
Estong Tutong says:
I am a domain owner and I have registered my own domain at Blue Frog. I joined the DNIR (Do Not Intrude Registry) mid-April of this year and I only saw POSITIVE results after a bit more than one (1) week.
The POSITIVE results comprise a notable reduction in spam for my entire domain. The only messages I receive now are mostly the anti-Blue Frog messages by one irate spammer. I have been irate for so many years and for maybe millions of spam I have suffered through. So what’s a few hundreds more if I’m seeing truly the last few hundreds of it?
The websites of Blue Security are indeed down. Its MTAs (mail transport agents) are also down as of earlier today (my GMT +0800). But I trust that, in the end, the community will prevail. I hope Blue Security would be kind enough to mirror their websites with other reliable and trustworthy web-hosting providers so that the technical side of the battle continues to rage on unhindered. Their next release of the Blue Frog should be akin to a torrent client or any p2p client system - for a truly distributed network of anti-spam botnets posting opt-out requests and relaying information to other anti-spam botnets.
Blue Frog, we have faith and trust in you. We will not wilt nor yield. We shall overcome this little and time-limited adversity. We will not be scared. Instead, we will just get angry, mad and even. Goodbye, spam!
May 3rd, 2006 at 9:10 am
David Johnston says:
It’s likely that your computer has been compromised by a virus or trojan and is being used to attack other computers. I would reccomend that you run a virus scan. Kaspersky is very good (http://www.kaspersky.ru/). If you have more than one computer attached to your internet connection, it could also be another machine that is infected. If you can’t find anything, I would reccomend you disconnect your machine from the internet and reinstall Windows or whichever OS you’re using.
May 3rd, 2006 at 9:12 am
cyril says:
Honestly, did anyone not feel happy when the news reports of a russian spammers murder made their way around the globe last year?
May 3rd, 2006 at 9:29 am
Just Another Frog says:
I have my own pathetic little website. My host gave me something like 200 email addresses as part ofthe package. Other than my wife and my main addresses, the rest are catchall type addresses that blindly forward everything to BlueFrog and most recently, the FTC.
The frog runs on Windows and Linux (command line only for now). I believe there is a MAC version also.
May 3rd, 2006 at 10:43 am
Icewarp says:
Bluefrog For the Win! 4TW!
May 3rd, 2006 at 10:47 am
Egamma says:
I really don’t care if my accounts get flooded with spam–the accounts I have signed up with Blue Frog, are the ones I don’t use. My hotmail account, egamma@hotmail.com, is set to “exclusive” filtering, meaning that ALL mail gets sent to the Junk Folder, where it is an easy target for Blue Security and the regular Hotmail reporting.
I merely laugh at spam sent to egamma@hotmail.com, and spam@uce.gov.
May 3rd, 2006 at 10:55 am
Michael says:
My frog is not longer working, cannot resolve the connection with host. I hope this means they are working to resolve issues with the DDoS attack and not that spammer has won.
A technical question. Since my frog is not working, I simply letting MailWasher delete and bounce my messages back to my server. Any point in the “bounce” since the spam messages I am now receiving are ALL a result of this attack and the sender is using zombies to send?
May 3rd, 2006 at 10:56 am
Buaya King says:
I believe the attack on Blue Security and its subscribers are actually conducted by a group of terrorists.
These terrorists are not really interested in making money by selling something. They do not care whether their clients would get into trouble with their spams. They just want to spam you to having nightmares and beg for mercy (and opt out of BF). They just enjoy the power over you.
Contrary to many saying “Blue Security making it unprofitable for spammers to …”, I think Blue Security does not diminish spammers’ profit at all because BF’s subscribers are people who want to complain against spams and would not buy anything from them or their clients anyway. By getting IP addresses and websites blacklisted due to complaints to DNSBL are the reasons for becoming unprofitable for spammers. If spammers use BF’s list and steer clear of these emails, they might actually make more money for themselves and their clients.
I think the attack Blue Security is about power and pride or maybe the attackers simply hate Jews.
May 3rd, 2006 at 11:38 am
etan Y.p says:
mark i have same problem my internet connection under attack at this point.
Internet provider told me the same thing.
My INBOX IS FULL over 300 email’s in last six hours.
any solution ? can someone help to get cleaned from that ?
May 3rd, 2006 at 11:50 am
etan Y.p says:
mark i have same problem my internet connection under attack at this point.
Internet provider told me the same thing.
My INBOX IS FULL over 300 email’s in last six hours.
any solution ? can someone help to get cleaned from that ?
May 3rd, 2006 at 11:56 am
Mark says:
Great idea Egamma. The resistance from the Sp